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E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

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Matt Gardner
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3DS, E3 2012, E3 2012 Predictions, Kirby, Mario, Metroid, Nintendo, Nintendo Press Conference, Opinion, Ruminating, Theorising, Wii U, Zelda

E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

In our final look at the big three press conferences, we chat about Nintendo and, unsurprisingly, the big thing on everyone's lips is the Wii U. Will they announce features and specs? What of the console's launch lineup? Will it get a rebranding? And what of the 3DS? Nintendo have a second chance following last year's fiasco to set the record straight.

Carl

E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

Oh those guys. Those ******* guys. After an E3 presentation last year which left me horribly disappointed it’s time for take two of the Wii U’s unveiling, but this time they have to absolutely 100% nail it. My hope is that they have used the last year to allow multiple tablet controllers to connect to a console, and perhaps even allow for streaming a game to a tablet over the internet so you can properly play on the go (you know, like the name “Project Café” implied.)

No doubt we will get a smothering of Mario-based products, Zelda will make an appearance, and we will see their attempt to make the 3DS relevant to the casual buyer market, but what I really want is for Nintendo to start being more adventurous and grab my interest in their games again. A guy can dream, eh?

Jon

E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

No pressure, Nintendo. Last year's E3 press conference was a confusing, embarrassing, disastrous shambles that left the gaming community bemused and concerned, so they absolutely have to nail the Wii U reveal this time around. We need specs. We need launch titles - first party as well as third. We need footage. Features. 3DS connectivity. If you actually bother to tell us things, Nintendo, we can get excited about the Wii U ahead of its Christmas launch.

E3 is where the hype machine has to slip into a higher gear, so it's time to bring out the big guns. Heavy hitters like Mario, Zelda, SSB and even Metroid would be a good place to start... and just what is Retro Studios working on?

On the 3DS side of things, hopefully Animal Crossing 3D and Luigi's Mansion 2 will be making an anticipated appearance, preferably flanked by a few surprises.

Josh

E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

Nintendo have a lot to prove at this year’s E3.  Their announcement of the ‘Wii U’ was an absolute disaster last time round, and left many scratching their heads as to what the tablet controller was actually for.  This is their chance then, to clarify exactly what a ‘Wii U’ is and why we should be excited about it.  Some genuine gameplay footage will probably be their first port of call, given that much of last year’s presentation was speculative.  I’ll push the boat out and say that a new Metroid title may well be on the cards, and we’ll get our first glimpse of it next week.

That’s not to say that the 3DS will be ignored.  Nintendo are still keen to push their (relatively) new handheld device, and with Kid Icarus being released to rave reviews, could we be enjoying a follow up announcement at this year’s expo?  Of course, Nintendo are famously reluctant to push brand new IPs, and I would go so far as to say that not a single in-house franchise will be announced that we haven’t seen before.  If I’m cynical Nintendo, it’s because you made me this way...

Matt

E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

Nintendo screwed the pooch last year when it came to presenting the Wii U for the first time, but everything will be forgotten and forgiven if they can give us just one thing: games. We don't even need specs, just games. We'll be able to tell how shiny they are from looking at the inevitable swathe of trailers; the games themselves will let us know how the tablet feeds into everything, but I want to see names: Mario, Luigi, Zelda, Samus, Kirby. Anything. It'll all be for nothing unless they can show us some freaking games! I reckon Link and Samus will almost certainly be at the party.

There'll be some 3DS stuff, with Luigi's Mansion 2 still to emerge, and I sincerely hope that they bring Pokemon Black/White 2 to the party. Nintendo probably won't break news of new IP, but it'd be nice to see older franchises return. Why the hell there's not been a new F-Zero annouced for either platform is utterly beyond me.

Third parties will make an appearance again, sharing the stage with Iwata and Shigsy, and pontificating on how it's good to see Nintendo "back", but there's a sense that Nintendo have a second pass this time around. They dropped the ball last time, but this is the chance to have another crack...and maybe a rebrand while they're at it.

Tom

E3 2012 Preview | Nintendo

When it comes to Nintendo I'm going to be very boring and simply say that I'll be happy as long as we get to see, or indeed hear, something substantial in regards to the Wii U.

Also, the sales figures and reviews for Ocarina Of Time 3D prove that The Legend Of Zelda series continues to endear itself to new generations, and Nintendo would be mad not to announce another game in the series.  I want Mario, and his karting hobby; I want Kirby and Samus and Fox. I want Super Smash Bros for Wii U or 3DS.

There'll be more announcements from 3rd parties, detailing more games being brought over to the Wii U, but we need a launch lineup to get excited about and we need it now.

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imdurc  May. 31, 2012 at 17:25

Wow...harsh critics. To those in the article seemingly not understanding the tablet portion of the WiiU, look up the E3 video demonstrating what it could do.
I distinctly remember the use of it in the home as a way to play games without hogging the tv. I'm also sure I remember a golfing game being used to show what it could do in combination with a Wiimote. There was also a tablet drawing thing, a customising game graphics thing on a fighting game, Wii fit looking demo, etc. etc.

If you disliked those and decided to push those aside for something you care about, maybe that's a valid reason to say what you did. But since you didn't say anything like that, it came off like this... didn't like, so didn't mention those uses of the tablet.

RiKx  Jun. 1, 2012 at 09:25

Maybe it's that a golfing game using a Wiimote isn't exactly news?! Neither is a 'tablet drawing thing' which already exists on the Wii as does a Wii-fit so maybe its because nintendo are just doing what they always do these days, re-hash old stuff. Maybe that's why they didn't mention it, it wasn't worth it. I used to love nintendo but they are lazy as hell these days and ignore market trends. Motion control is a gaming fad and its already on its way out, yet nintendo are building a next gen console still heavily involved in it when most people's Wii's are gathering dust. To say nothing of the fact nintendo are STILL ignoring the internet for the most part.

Last edited by RiKx, Jun. 1, 2012 at 09:26
MattGardner  Jun. 1, 2012 at 09:41

Without speaking for the others, I can say that the reason I didn't focus on the Wii U's features , as I explain in my post, is because frankly the games are more important. We were treated to a bunch of explanatory tech demos at last year's E3, but tech demos don't sell consoles. Golfing is nothing new, tablet drawing is in the sinbin after uDraw, and motion control can no longer rely on "oooh, that's interesting" to sell games. Nintendo managed to sell the Wii so quickly because it was completely new, and only then did they follow up with (far too few) flagship games. If they're going toe-to-toe with Sony and Microsoft again, they need their A-team present and firing on all cylinders, and we've heard nothing to that effect. Lightning won't strike twice for the Wii U...it needs games to be announced next week so the hype machine can kick into gear. Features won't do that...but if Miyamoto appears onstage as says the word Zelda, the world will go nuts.

DivideByZero  Jun. 1, 2012 at 12:07

Some of the world Matt.

But I agree with you about the games, partially. If you consider just how pants the performance of the Wii is compared to the PS3 and the 360 - it puts a LOT of gamers off. This is once again the entire argument about the next-gen. But just look at how naff the Wii is and how few good proper games it has.

Meh... I just hate the Wii. It's for fat people to play fitness games with, it's not really for gamers. Nintendo have a long way to go to make something for gamers - I hope they have and it does get some great games behind it. But all I see is Zelda, Mario and Pokemon.

retrobeans  Jun. 1, 2012 at 13:37

... Meh... I just hate the Wii. It's for fat people to play fitness games with, it's not really for gamers.


Sigh. I almost agree with some of your comments on this site, but then you always seem to throw something unnecessary and childish in to ruin the validity of your opinion.

Whilst I rarely play the Wii anymore there have been some outstanding games for the system. Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, The Zelda Games, Xenoblade, Donkey Kong Returns, Kirbys Epic Yarn, Zack & Wiki, de Blob, Mad World, Muramasa etc, etc. The Wii and said games cost next to nothing these days, well worth giving them a go.

Back on topic:
We need exclusives, and plenty of them. The Wii became the console gamers "second console" to compliment the 360/PS3 we all own. I don't care about AC3 or Metro Last Light on the Wii U, I'll get them on my 360.

DivideByZero  Jun. 1, 2012 at 15:09

My point about the Wii is that there are more non-games for it than there are great games.

Of all the people I know who use the Wii most, only 1 plays actual games on it, the rest literally do keep fit and just dance etc. Of the 5 people in my office who own or have owned Wii's, only 2 still own them. I don't use mine at all now and the other guy says his wife uses it for... keep fit.

I never played Mario Galaxy 1 or 2 as the high, non dropping price put me off. But De Blob 2 is on 360 with much better graphics (completed - ace game) and I own Mad World but never played it.

I have seen there are good games for the Wii... there have been some new ones that I thought looked good too (Pandora's tower looked awesome), but ultimately, real games for the Wii seem second to "mum" stuff by a long shot!

I may try SMG 1/2 if the price has dropped by now...

RiKx  Jun. 1, 2012 at 15:13

Super Mario Galaxy ISace!

DivideByZero  Jun. 1, 2012 at 15:16

To clarify - the top 10 sellers on play.com for the Wii:

1) Just Dance Best Of

2) ABBA: You Can Dance (Game Only)

3) Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure - Character Pack (Double Trouble)

4) Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure - Character Pack (Chop Chop)

5) New Super Mario Bros Wii

6) Zumba Fitness (With Fitness Belt)

7) Zumba Fitness 2

8) Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure - Character Pack (Drill Sergeant)

9) Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure - Triple Character Pack (Prism Break / Boomer / Voodood)

10) Mario Kart Wii (includes Wii Wheel)


In the above list, there are 2 games that I would play... Mario and Mario Kart... that is exactly what I am talking about with the Wii.

Retro... my point was not literal, like I say, I have one friend who IS a proper hardcore gamer and has completed every game he wants to on the Wii... I could never do that with say PS3... the selection and quality of proper games on the Wii is a lot less than on other formats. Sad, but true IMO.

DivideByZero  Jun. 1, 2012 at 15:18

Super Mario Galaxy ISace!


Yeah, I did want to play it but couldn't justify paying £30 for a copy when I had been so disappointed by other poor Wii games and the utterly naff graphics of the Wii.

Thanks to you and Retro, I am definitely going to pick up a copy now and dust my Wii off.

DivideByZero  Jun. 1, 2012 at 15:29

Lets compare the top 10 on Play.com for the PS3:

1) Kingdoms Of Amalur: Reckoning

2) Call Of Duty: Black Ops

3) Max Payne 3 (With Pre-Order Bonus Local Justice Multiplayer Map Pack)

4) Mass Effect 3

5) Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier (With Play.com Exclusive Bonus Bodark Pack Download)

6) Ubisoft Double Pack: Assassin's Creed 1 / Assassin's Creed 2

7) Sniper Elite V2

8) FIFA Street

9) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

10) Sony PS3 DualShock 3 Wireless Controller - Black

Not a game - so lets include 11,

11) Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception


Now look back at the Wii list above... sadly proper games are not the big selling point for the Wii.

Last edited by DivideByZero, Jun. 1, 2012 at 15:31
DivideByZero  Jun. 4, 2012 at 20:13

Diging this thread back up again. £18 for a copy on SMG in game... preowned! £30 new.

What the s***ing f***? That game is ages old. My only thought on that is that there are so few great games on the Wii that it can keep its value.

I know Mario has a very strong sales point, but even so.

dealzx  Jun. 6, 2012 at 10:56

Diging this thread back up again. £18 for a copy on SMG in game... preowned! £30 new.

What the s***ing f***? That game is ages old. My only thought on that is that there are so few great games on the Wii that it can keep its value.

I know Mario has a very strong sales point, but even so.


You can get SMG for around £15-20 as it is a Nintendo Selects game. £15 at zavvi, £18 on game online, £16 on amazon.

DivideByZero  Jun. 6, 2012 at 14:00

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