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Modern Warfare 2 Javelin Glitch: To Ban Or Not To Ban

John McLaggan
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Modern Warfare 2 Javelin Glitch: To Ban Or Not To Ban

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has once again made the recent headlines - this time for the 'javelin glitch' which allows players to detonate themselves after death if they have the javelin weapon equipped. InfinityWard are currently working on a patch to remove the glitch which is currently in place for the PC and should be available shortly for the Xbox 360 and PS3.

In the meantime, Microsoft and Sony have taken very different approaches to those who exploit the glitch - Microsoft are banning gamers from Xbox Live for 24 hours if using the glitch, whereas Sony are taking no action against Playstation Network glitchers.

Microsoft have already taken advantage of the Modern Warfare 2 launch to implement a new wave of banning modified Xbox 360 consoles. This has led some to criticise the 24 hour bans as heavy handed, because access to any game on Xbox Live is removed, not just to Modern Warfare 2. The glitch is now reasonably well known and no longer presents an unfair advantage over other players. It can be extremely frustrating playing a game where people are taking advantage of glitching particularly where it is widespread. Sony's lack of action could be seen as them simply not wanting to make the effort to moderate a free online gaming service.

Which side do you stand on - do you think those taking advantage of glitches should be banned, or allowed to continue? Or is it less clear cut and more dependent on the severity of the cheating?

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Chris Hill  Dec. 11, 2009 at 14:23

Its unfair, since 'glitchers' have been using it to increase XP points in the game and progress through the ranks, unlocking better weapons. Once the 24h ban is over these weapons will still be there for them to use. Its right to issue a punishment, but this is not a very good one.

If it can be proven someone has used the glitch to gain rank and therefore advantage, they should be knocked back a few ranks.

Emma Kelly  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:07

But it's really not fair that people on one console are being treated differently to another.

I personally don't play the game - but I don't think they should have been punished for something that was the fault of the game makers.

Adam2050  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:10

Stupid Microsoft taking silly action on something that's not the players fault.

Wax  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:15

"Stupid Microsoft taking silly action on something that’s not the players fault."

If you intentionally use the glitch, then it's your fault.

As far as i know you have to equip something then do summut else while other stuff is held to use it anyway, it's not like you can accidentally pull it off. If it happens, 99.99999 times out of 100 it's on purpose, so a ban is the right thing.

i love foam  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:20

people knew about it but most couldnt be bothered to use it. If it had been such a marvellos thing everyone would have done it. Banning people for this minor offence is pathetic

Adam2050  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:21

Oh dear, really set myself up for that response.

I meant the developers developed the game not the gamers, banning someone for taking advantage on a player with a glitch is out of order.

Andrew Robinson  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:24

It's against the Xbox Live terms and conditions therefore Microsoft suspend for it. It's not heavy handed, it's not unfair if they can't play other games. They're breaching terms and conditions by which they're bound and with which they've agreed so there is no question or complaint.

If Sony don't included clauses like this in their online services, it's their fault and no-one else's!

glitcher  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:34

Ive been using this glitch for ages, they cant ban you,lol its just a threat
loads of fun using it :)

Shane  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:39

Not bothered either way, as long as the console manufacturers make it clear what they the problems are and what the results are. They never did anything about the multi weapon glitch in zombies on cod5 and I would be quite annoyed if they suddenly banned me for it the next time I used it, but if they pushed an update and made it clear that you would be banned then there wouldnt be a problem.

Spark  Dec. 11, 2009 at 15:53

Microsoft just like banning people for random things, it makes their service seem more prestigious and elite, as does charging for it when it is infinitely inferior to PSN in terms of infrastructure.

Late  Dec. 11, 2009 at 16:00

Seems the xbox360 patch came out a couple hours ago, but the ps3 patch isn't yet available...

I've seen people using the glitch in one game, but tbh hadn't realised at the time - just thought they were firing as they got shot. Would've cottoned something was amiss had I seen it more often, of course.

EndlessWaves  Dec. 11, 2009 at 16:14

Normally on a game like this I'd expect most server admins to simply patch the game themselves, disable the weapon completely if need be, until the official patch is done testing and released.

But being a console game I guess the only sensible thing to do is to simply leave the game alone until the problem is fixed.

casinodancer  Dec. 11, 2009 at 16:15

If anyone who has posted a comment on this subject, has actually played a game and had the glitch used time after time, would tell you how microsoft should ban the players glitching for life as its so annoying and as other people have said you can't do the glitch by accident! Well done Microsoft I back you all the way.

Chris  Dec. 11, 2009 at 16:21

I actually am quite pleased that M$ are imposing 24h bans on the glitchers, although I have no idea how the actually know!

As others have mentioned, it's pretty much impossible to do by accident - Perhaps if someone does it once in a day, it's ok, but if more than once then make it bannable. Having played in games where the entire opposite team used the glitch, I can tell first hand that it sucks completely - You either shoot them and die, or don't shoot, get knifed then die.

I'm going to have to back M$ on this one and back them for the bans on the modded consoles. I pay for my games like most people - I just wait for them to come down to an acceptable price, which happens VERY quickly these days, so it's all good.

PaulT  Dec. 12, 2009 at 07:36

A ban is ridiculous. Players taking advantage of the bug are doing just that - taking advantage of something the game allows you to do. It's not their fault that playtesting missed this bug, nor that they haven't come up with a fix for it yet (oops just read that they apparently have now!).

Yeah, I agree with bans for people modding the code, but if the game allows them to do something it's not really cheating. It's MS / IW's fault that the glitch existed, not the players for noticing it.

Jack  Dec. 12, 2009 at 19:09

Nobody has been banned for doing it - it was to scare glitchers, noobies.

Seatz  Jan. 28, 2010 at 09:08

And IW still think they didn't need a public beta?


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