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REPORT | Losing Microsoft Points Will Raise XBLA Game Prices [UPDATE]

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Jonathan Lester
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REPORT | Losing Microsoft Points Will Raise XBLA Game Prices [UPDATE]

800 MSP (£6.80) Games Become £8.99

The next Xbox 360 dashboard update will phase out Microsoft Points in favour of hard currency in August, but by the looks of things, this will technically make downloadable games more expensive in the process. Yet points are ostensibly being converted back into cash at the original rate... potentially leaving you out of pocket.

UPDATE: Apparently this is just an error that will be rectified soon.

The dash update is currently in open beta, though governed by a strict non disclosure agreement as part of the EULA (trust me). However, Eurogamer has heard from a tipster involved in the beta who has blown the whistle on price hikes across the board. 800 Microsoft Points usually equate to £6.80 at RRP - and cheaper in sales - but that's not how the new prices are calculated.

  • 1600MSP games are now £14.99; previously this was the equivalent of £13.60
  • 1200 MSP games are now £11.99, previously £10.20
  • 800 MSP games are now £8.99, an even bigger increase - previously this was £6.80
  • 400 MSP games are now £4.49, previously £3.20

Despite this price hike, Microsoft Points are reportedly converted back into Sterling at the old rate. If you only have 800 Microsoft Points, for example, you won't have enough to buy a game that used to cost 800. I can not officially confirm or deny whether this is true, but strongly urge that you hold off on the beta if you have any points remaining.

Microsoft has yet to officially announce the new prices, and it's worth noting that they could change as part of the beta process, but we'll personally be sad to see Microsoft Points go. Sure, it's annoying to have leftover points in the bottom of your wallet, but the savings (usually XBLA titles cost £6.80 compared to £7.99 on PC and PSN, even without buying point cards in a sale) vastly outweighed the negatives. More as this story develops.

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Late  Jul. 10, 2013 at 11:29

Ugh. I think I have about 4k points, and was toying with sticking a few thou more on soon - in anticipation of points being phased out but still being worth current face value.

Sounds like they're effectively making two changes, then. Getting rid of points; and wholesale price rises for digital content.

Way to win people over at this vital time, Microsoft.

Gonna have to get more info and think this through properly. It might prove best to spend points now, before this shifts from beta to a proper worldwide update.
(Actually, I signed up to be a beta tester a while back. Not sure if that agreement is permanent, tbh - I might end up with this beta when I turn my machine on tonight...)

Shained  Jul. 10, 2013 at 11:45

Any idea on when this will roll out?

GetsugaTenshoS  Jul. 10, 2013 at 11:48

It's just one thing after another with Microsoft. I registered for the beta but I've not turned on my 360 to see if it's been rolled out to me yet, if this is true then I'm done with buying XBLA games and MS can screw themselves.

JonLester  Jul. 10, 2013 at 12:04

@Shained: August, I think.

donttouchthehair  Jul. 10, 2013 at 12:27

Was going to get the new Walking Dead episode (for around £3 of points) - but being charged 50% extra (£4.49) makes it seem like less of an impulse buy.

socialjeebus  Jul. 10, 2013 at 13:00

Just breathtaking if true.

I could understand rounding up the prices to the nearest quid but those price hikes and just taking the proverbial.

Wonder if the price rises are to compensate for the DRM u-turn?

DrTrouserPlank  Jul. 10, 2013 at 13:18

It's worth noting that the UK (MS's stronghold in Europe) is getting the biggest shafting

Selected world-rates based on what I believe are market rates for points according to dashboard.

Australia
400 MSP ($6.60) -> $4.99 [-25%]
800 MSP ($13.25) -> $9.99 [-25%]
1200 MSP ($19.80) -> $19.99 [+1%]
1600 MSP ($26.50) -> $24.99 [-5%]

Euro
400 Microsoft Points (€4.80) = €4.99
800 Microsoft Points (€9.60) = €9.99
1200 Microsoft Points (€14.40) = €14.99
1600 Microsoft Points (€19.20) = €19.99

I can't find the figures but I think the US is taking a slight hit in the converstion, and Canada is winning big-time with the conversions being used.

JonLester  Jul. 10, 2013 at 14:28

@Socialjeebus: The timing is unfortunate, but it's likely got more to do with VAT and UK exchange rate. Our 20% VAT makes everything more expensive here, both retail and digital. DrTrouserPlank has provided a helpful comparison to other territories above. The DRM U-turn shouldn't affect Xbox 360 pricing at all, since there's no backwards compatibility.

Also, I've heard that Microsoft likes money (stop the presses).

Last edited by JonLester, Jul. 10, 2013 at 14:30
Adster  Jul. 10, 2013 at 14:40

it's likely got more to do with VAT and UK exchange rate.
But why would that affect the points to cash conversion?

JonLester  Jul. 10, 2013 at 14:44

it's likely got more to do with VAT and UK exchange rate.
But why would that affect the points to cash conversion?


It wouldn't. :|

vwdan  Jul. 10, 2013 at 16:40

So... I've got about ten thousand MS points lying around. In terms of monetary value, it won't make a different if I load them onto my account before or after the beta, will it?

Maybe I should buy some DLC now before this hits. :(

DrTrouserPlank  Jul. 10, 2013 at 17:09

So... I've got about ten thousand MS points lying around. In terms of monetary value, it won't make a different if I load them onto my account before or after the beta, will it?

Maybe I should buy some DLC now before this hits. :(


It will make a difference. Any points that are loaded at the time of the swithover will be converted to their monetary equivalent, but will expire within 1 year of that date.

You'd be better keeping them as points and loading them as needed. They will still be subject to the 1 year expiration from the time they are loaded, but obviously having been loaded later it will give you more time to spend them rather than having to dump 10k in a year on stuff that you might not want.

Last edited by DrTrouserPlank, Jul. 10, 2013 at 17:13
MrHutch  Jul. 11, 2013 at 09:55

I've got the Beta and I noticed this last night. I have 1800 points an was gonna buy State of Decay for 1600. When I clicked on it they wanted to convert the points to £15.20 and the game comes up as £14.99. They're basically shafting us twice, make the points worth less and put all the prices up. Twunts.

JonLester  Jul. 11, 2013 at 10:16

UPDATE: Microsoft claims that this price disparity is just an "unintended error." More here.

vwdan  Jul. 11, 2013 at 14:04

So... I've got about ten thousand MS points lying around. In terms of monetary value, it won't make a different if I load them onto my account before or after the beta, will it?

Maybe I should buy some DLC now before this hits. :(


It will make a difference. Any points that are loaded at the time of the swithover will be converted to their monetary equivalent, but will expire within 1 year of that date.

You'd be better keeping them as points and loading them as needed. They will still be subject to the 1 year expiration from the time they are loaded, but obviously having been loaded later it will give you more time to spend them rather than having to dump 10k in a year on stuff that you might not want.

Thanks mate,really appreciate this info :D

Late  Aug. 26, 2013 at 15:48

RIP msp :(
My 3730 points have today been converted to £31.96.
Come on, Microsoft, play the game. What use is that 96p? Make it £32. Tw@

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