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RUMOUR: Next Xbox Won't Have Disc Drive?

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Jonathan Lester
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RUMOUR: Next Xbox Won't Have Disc Drive?

Solid-State Cards Instead?

MCV reports that Microsoft's next home console might not have a traditional disc drive. The hardware giant has ostensibly informed its retail partners that the next Xbox will use "some sort of interchangeable solid-state card storage" instead, which could be either a readily-available or proprietary format.

If true, this means that Microsoft would be able to lock each card to a specific console or Gamertag - and go through with their rumoured threat of completely blocking the pre-owned market. At the expense of backwards compatibility, natch.

This is just a rumour, and a potentially worrying one. Without backwards compatibility or DVD/Blu-Ray player potential, the next generation Xbox console could well be a seriously hard sell. We'll keep our eye on it.

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gunnx  Mar. 9, 2012 at 11:19

Makes perfect sense to move to a medium that isnt limited by physical size. card memory technology improves all the time, capacity goes up, price comes down. No more multi disc games for sure and the lack of drive will definitely lower manufacturer cost and reduce power consumption and weight. all good things.

I do think though that the PS4 should keep its blu ray drive.

phil16  Mar. 9, 2012 at 11:21

I was already consider whether to both with a next gen xbox next time (The current one has a very dusty kinect and is mainly used for driving games). If this is true it pretty much seals the deal. Back to PC it is - Not that I ever really left...

Richard90  Mar. 9, 2012 at 12:16

Surely solid state drives are gonna cost loads more than disks to create. As for not being limited by physical size - neither are disks, just use more of them a la final fantasy etc.

parabolica  Mar. 9, 2012 at 12:30

I still use my N64 and love the cartridges. Guess what? If you don't sell your console (usually for peanuts when next gen is out) there's no need for BC.

DivideByZero  Mar. 9, 2012 at 13:17

I dont have space for anything else under my TV though.

At the moment I have a PS3, 360, Original Xbox, Surround Sound, Multi region DVD and a VHS (doesnt actually look that bad on my 55" Full HD TV).

If I need to add anything else then I have an issue. I already have one PC hooked in to my TV too... will be another by the end of the weekend.

I have my old PS1 still and my PS2, but as my 60G PS3 plays those games I dont need them under my TV. And yeah, I still play the old games from time to time. Playing through Kingdom Hearts at the moment (PS2) and will be starting FF7 again soon.

As for disks... I dont blame MS about being cautious with what to do... look at the failed HD-DVD and the fact that you have to have 2 disks or more for the big games on DVD.

That was something Sony did very right, full commitment and full support for Blu Ray. If MS had fully backed HD-DVD then, even though inferior, it may have won.

Games may be harder to pirate if they are on roms that are non-proprietary too, whereas you can easily buy a DVD / Blu Ray writer.

Last edited by DivideByZero, Mar. 9, 2012 at 13:19
Late  Mar. 9, 2012 at 14:19

If MS had fully backed HD-DVD then, even though inferior, it may have won.

Games may be harder to pirate if they are on roms that are non-proprietary too, whereas you can easily buy a DVD / Blu Ray writer.

I believe HD-DVD was generally regarded as superior to BD (similarly betamax was superior to vhs), but that aside I agree - Microsoft's half-hearted support for the tech did it no favours at all.

The most likely reason for switching from disk to cart/drive, if this rumour were true, has surely got to be that they believe they can effectively eliminate piracy that way. I don't recall piracy being rife back in the snes/megadrive days - and that's not because piracy's a new thing. (Hell, I had a little over 1200 games on my Spectrum when I sold it, mostly on "c90" cassettes.)

gunnx  Mar. 9, 2012 at 16:16

If MS had fully backed HD-DVD then, even though inferior, it may have won.

Games may be harder to pirate if they are on roms that are non-proprietary too, whereas you can easily buy a DVD / Blu Ray writer.

I believe HD-DVD was generally regarded as superior to BD (similarly betamax was superior to vhs), but that aside I agree - Microsoft's half-hearted support for the tech did it no favours at all.

The most likely reason for switching from disk to cart/drive, if this rumour were true, has surely got to be that they believe they can effectively eliminate piracy that way. I don't recall piracy being rife back in the snes/megadrive days - and that's not because piracy's a new thing. (Hell, I had a little over 1200 games on my Spectrum when I sold it, mostly on "c90" cassettes.)


doesn't that just happen with any new format, cd and dvd were expensive/difficult to copy initially. theres been plenty uproar at Vita using propriety memory but that's what it takes. And if I remember for snes/megadrive days you could buy some sort of external disc drive thing to play backup/copies.

Anarchist  Mar. 9, 2012 at 23:33

Yes but, how many people do you actually know that had the megadrive external drives, playing pirated software?

None. I have heard rumours about one or two people, but don't actually know any personally. Because it was so expensive/difficult/there was little info on it pre-internet.

How many people do you know that have pirated xbox games? Sh*t loads. I did it, most of my xbox owning mates did it, a huge chunk of 360 owners did it. Because it was so easy.

HD-DVD was superior to Blu-Ray. In some ways, DVD is actually superior to Blu-Ray (Blu-Ray is considerably slower than DVD...).

Not sure where I'm going with this. Other than cartridges ARE old hat. I love the thought of going back to carts, but technology has moved on. £15 for a 32gb cart (based roughly on OEM flash prices) compared to 30p for a 25gb blu-ray disc. I'm not paying a £15 premium just because MS are terrified of teh pireats commming 4 tehm.

Piracy probably won this console generation for MS. It got a whole lot of people onboard who could have gone either way, or not bothered with consoles at all. And by the time MS fixed the piracy issues, people were too drawn into the xbox experience to give it up.

gunnx  Mar. 14, 2012 at 11:11

Yes but, how many people do you actually know that had the megadrive external drives, playing pirated software?

None. I have heard rumours about one or two people, but don't actually know any personally. Because it was so expensive/difficult/there was little info on it pre-internet.

How many people do you know that have pirated xbox games? Sh*t loads. I did it, most of my xbox owning mates did it, a huge chunk of 360 owners did it. Because it was so easy.

HD-DVD was superior to Blu-Ray. In some ways, DVD is actually superior to Blu-Ray (Blu-Ray is considerably slower than DVD...).

Not sure where I'm going with this. Other than cartridges ARE old hat. I love the thought of going back to carts, but technology has moved on. £15 for a 32gb cart (based roughly on OEM flash prices) compared to 30p for a 25gb blu-ray disc. I'm not paying a £15 premium just because MS are terrified of teh pireats commming 4 tehm.

Piracy probably won this console generation for MS. It got a whole lot of people onboard who could have gone either way, or not bothered with consoles at all. And by the time MS fixed the piracy issues, people were too drawn into the xbox experience to give it up.


I've heard that argument before but not sure I agree, piracy certainly didnt help the PSP, you still need sales, DS does well because it still sells lots of retail games even though piracy on it is trivial to achieve. Xbox might well be simple enough to pirate but the sales were often higher for retail on multi plat games on the 360 vs ps3. Sony seemed to do a pretty decent job on piracy for the PS3 but it wasn't like developers suddenly abandoned all other formats for it, clearly they are happy to take a % of piracy if sales are still good, while they still complain about it of course but they could simply choose not develop for a platform with high piracy rates.

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